Well put Grim. I hope they listen, although I doubt they will. I feel they want to force the Metro UI and all its features on us and there not going to stop. I have the feeling like were going to continue to need 3rd party programs to keep our desktop, Desktops! Still it is what it is. I am enjoying win 8.1.1 right now and if the final build of 10 is no improvements, I will stick with 8.